June 21st, 2019

Replying to a tweet from @philnash

I feel like we need a word or phrase to encapsulate SSR + rehydration; just saying SSR doesn’t cover it, in my opinion—it puts the emphasis on the part that isn’t causing the problem.

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Alex Russell

Hrmmmmm…I mostly agree, but the TTFB consequences of these architectures tend to also be problematic. Obviously not nearly as bad as the rehydration and JS tax, but not ideal either. Maybe we need a term that describes this approach done right?

Paul Kinlan

I always called it progressive loading… But I’m aware progressive gets overloaded a lot.

Shane Hudson

Interesting. I’ve always thought the other way around - rehydration being the solution required to fix the situation when all the frameworks were client-side-only.

Tim Kadlec

Yeah…that’s super fair. Problem is most frameworks SSR solutions have assumed rehydration is involved by default (hence all the conflation and confusion). Likely because, as JS frameworks, they were built with a front-end bias first and the server side stuff mostly came later.

# Posted by Tim Kadlec on Friday, June 21st, 2019 at 1:40pm

Oli

ime the tradeoffs aren’t worth it for a non-trivial amount of serialised state (e.g. we inline a huge blob of Redux store + translations that are already in the HTML). This makes the initial HTML payload way bigger and slows down the time-to-interactive developers.google.com/web/updates/20…

# Posted by Oli on Friday, June 21st, 2019 at 1:44pm

Oli

ime the tradeoffs aren’t worth it for a non-trivial amount of serialised state (e.g. we inline a huge blob of Redux store + translations that are already in the HTML). This makes the initial HTML payload way bigger and slows down the time-to-interactive developers.google.com/web/updates/20…

# Posted by Oli on Friday, June 21st, 2019 at 1:44pm

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