October 3rd, 2019

Totally agreed it’s not the only way Though you still want to consider the App Shell in terms of priorities even with your design

But if you agree it’s not the only way, why did you describe it as a prerequisite? adactio.com/notes/15915

But if you agree it’s not the only way, why did you describe it as a prerequisite? adactio.com/notes/15915

Because there’s 2 aspects in an app shell: 1- Layout & design 2- Rendering what’s above the fold asap (prioritizing those assets) For 1) there’s multiple ways to do that (for example the one you did, and so many other designs) For 2) I think this is a prerequisite

Totally agree that getting something on the screen as quickly as possible is a prerequisite …but an app shell is not the only way to do that. Conflating the two is confusing. adactio.com/notes/15916

Totally agree that getting something on the screen as quickly as possible is a prerequisite …but an app shell is not the only way to do that. Conflating the two is confusing. adactio.com/notes/15916

not being there to see the talk, what exactly does “app shell” mean?

not being there to see the talk, what exactly does “app shell” mean?

oh I see, it’s a google thing: developers.google.com/web/fundamenta… yeah I’m with @adactio on this. this is a great way to put yourself into the mindset of a native app developer, but is far from the only way to make a good PWA experience.

Is App Shell a prerequisite to rendering what’s above the fold asap? I think there are other ways for that. It has eg. been highlighted in some previous talks how streamed parsing of HTML is often faster than AJAX-loaded HTML where the full response is needed before parsing.

It’s a bit out of context of the talk The talk is about native like PWAs, and because most native apps have app shells, then it’s a prerequisite for “native like PWAs” (not a prerequisite for any pwa)

Right 👍 /me makes note that Fronteers should be attended /me makes note to check how train connections from Copenhagen to there are in general /me makes notes about notes

Hahaha 💪

App shell is an overhyped concept for sure, like PRPL and co. Critical CSS and shipping your above the fold content in the first 14kb (and progressively enhancing with scripts) are established best practices.

Oh, I see! I thought you were saying that an app shell is a prerequisite for any good progressive web app. adactio.com/notes/15917

Oh, I see! I thought you were saying that an app shell is a prerequisite for any good progressive web app. adactio.com/notes/15917

Do u think it’s also overhyped for when you’re building native-like PWAs? I’m happy to discuss the business usecase with you privately (can’t share it online),as I’m getting very positive comments from users who are now advocating for these PWAs (Not claiming it solely on shell)