November 25th, 2019

Replying to a tweet from @stubbornella

4/5 of devs use react, angular, or vue.

Really? I count 7.2% of devs using React, Angular or Vue. That’s more like 4/50:

https://almanac.httparchive.org/en/2019/javascript#frameworks-and-ui-libraries

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(Though, based on the amount of ink spilled, it certainly seems like 4/5 devs are using “framework of the month”.)

# Monday, November 25th, 2019 at 8:42pm

Nicole Sullivan

The source for my data is an MDN developer survey. It definitely has survivor bias though, so we should probably survey folks who left web dev to go to android or ios development.

Nicole Sullivan

I’ve looked at several data sources: This year in JavaScript The state of JS Stack overflow survey The state of CSS MDN survey MSFT forms surveys HTTP Archive NPM install data Chrome data Each has biases, but in total they paint a picture.

Rhy Moore

I knew a lot of freelance designers and developers before I moved to SF who would never hear about either survey.

# Posted by Rhy Moore on Monday, November 25th, 2019 at 8:55pm

Nicole Sullivan

To that end, important to acknowledge the bias in HTTP Archive… it’s logged out views of only top level domains. (so it’s much more likely to hit marketing sites and login screens)

Rhy Moore

I don’t really think that impacts what I am getting at. Some of the people I kept in contact with still don’t use npm. I also personally missed more than half of those surveys this year. Metrics are important, but they can erase people.

# Posted by Rhy Moore on Monday, November 25th, 2019 at 9:04pm

Nicole Sullivan

We also have a lot of conversations (like these). It’s more qualitative but it counts too!

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